Heapin' helpin' of witless twaddle
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What a bunch of tripe.
Heapin' helpin' of witless twaddle
mike18xxmike18xx 1162372490|%e %b %Y, %H:%M %Z|agohover

The following are not logically or ethically valid arguments in defense of what one does, even if, for the nonce, they "work" in a pragmatic sense:

(Paraphrasing and breathless exclamation-points included free-of-charge…because you like free.)

  • "It's 'legal' here even if it isn't over there! …not that we're going to squawl like scalded cats the split-second what's 'legal' over here CHANGES, leaving our asses dangling over the pikes."
  • "Our very BEST intellectual-lite argument for sharing files is a worm-brained Marxist rant against "profit" — even though we certainly expect to get paid at the end of a week's worth of days of rolling out of bed every morning in order to go to work! ….hey, c'mon, gimme a break, here — the camera was rolling, and I needed to come up with something fast that Chill Dren living off parental allowances or government school-grants could relate to!"
  • "'Markets' are not natural. …which means that when islanders trade coconuts for fish, or sex for gaijin dollars — or what have you — they're breaking some immutable communist doctrine that only Swedish Shaggys can comprehend even as they're paying bona-fide fiat MONEY for more SERVERS in the computer hardware MARKET. (Meanwhile, plundering Irish monestaries from a drakkar-headed longboat is perfectly 'natural'.)"
  • "Yay Scandihoovia! Boo US!"

(sigh)

How on earth is it possible that, with all the time in the world, these guys couldn't come up with better than this self-serving tripe? — If they're going to make a case against intellectual property-rights, why don't they?

I observe they've missed a saliant point in that nobody pirates IMAX movies for obvious reasons — which would have been the natural follow-up to clip regarding the music industry rediscovering that live performances are where the cash was and still is (in markets, you dumbshits).


Catch me and my swell rips at Demonoid.

unfold Heapin' helpin' of witless twaddle by mike18xxmike18xx, 1162372490|%e %b %Y, %H:%M %Z|agohover
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artmartm 1173300697|%e %b %Y, %H:%M %Z|agohover

Oh, come on, the Part 1 of the "documentary" is biased and not well argumented, but it's out there for propagandist reasons and it's appeal to emotion, not logic that drives propaganda.

Communism and sharing is just as natural as markets. It's so hypocrit of you to engage in communist activities and simultanously call this Marxist rant "worm-brained".

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mike18xxmike18xx 1173857214|%e %b %Y, %H:%M %Z|agohover

An "appeal to emotion, not logic" is not what drives propaganda, but censorship of alternative avenues of information. Appealing to emotion rather than logic is, rather, a symptom of ineptitude, if not out-right stupidity. (Equating file-trading with communism is another symptom.)

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artmartm 1174159727|%e %b %Y, %H:%M %Z|agohover

Censorship is only one of the instruments in spreading some forms of propaganda - those of the side already in power. The opposition doesn't have opportunity to censor, which doesn't mean they won't try to spread their ideas.

The goal of propaganda isn't to prove anything right, but to spread ideas. Look at the churches - there isn't much logic in religion, and still they control large portions of population through terror or love or whatever, never through logic though.

File-sharing is communist. File-trading is capitalist. Even if it's the same thing. It's all just a matter of point of view. But to spread one's POV she may chose to exagerate its differences from the opposite side.

And bringing Marxism up in the original post was asking for accusations in being a Marxist yourself.

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mike18xxmike18xx 1176623071|%e %b %Y, %H:%M %Z|agohover

Tell me, what is this language you speak in which all the words are English, but the definitions are altered?

Propaganda isn't advertising or proselytization, communism isn't sharing, and file-"trading" is a pretty thin representation of Capitalism given the lack of capital investment.

And bringing Marxism up in the original post was asking for
accusations in being a Marxist yourself.

Now that's just stupid.

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